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NGC7161

 

Basic Information


Location and Magnitude


Right Ascension: 21:56:57.9
Declination: +2:55:0
Constellation: PEG
Visual Magnitude:

Historic Information


Discoverer: d'Arrest
Year of discovery: 1862
Discovery aperture: 11.0

Observational


Summary description: Cl, vS, st 19, bet 2 st 16
Sub-type: *2

Corwin's Notes

===== NGC 7161 is apparently a group of three double stars about 2 arcmin south of d'A's position. However, his two descriptions are inconsistent, with only the second suggesting his object is a cluster. Both descriptions mention the 10th magnitude star 11 seconds preceding the object, and both also mention the two flanking 14th magnitude stars (though d'A puts them at 16th magnitude; underestimating magnitudes numerically was a common occurance in the 19th century before good photometry was available). This object appeared first in GC thanks to a list of 125 new nebulae that d'A sent directly to JH; thus the entry "d'Arrest, 115" in GC. D'A next published a summary list of many of his novae in AN 1500. This object is number 194 there. Finally, when d'A's massive monograph appeared a few years later, the full observations finally appeared. Given the problem with the declination, I'm not completely happy with the identification. Reinmuth called the object simply a double star, and RNGC followed along. The brightest of the three pairs is the northern most, so I can see why it might be taken as d'A's object. The position I give, though, is a mean for all three -- but I'm not sure that this is the correct interpretation. Perhaps a complete translation of d'A's Latin notes would help. ----- Coming across this object again in April 2016 when I have Google Translate available, I've done the translation. Here is d'A's first observation on 13 September 1862, cleaned up to read smoothly in English, of course (the bits in double quotes are from the original Latin text, untranslatable by me; perhaps you can manage it): Nebula is very faint and indistinct; very small, oblong. And there is no moon. Verified at 231X. 2 stars 9-10 preceding; the closer star is 11 seconds preceding the nebula, somewhat south, 3 1/4' "a neb. olongata." It is not easy to see. The next night, d'A has this to say about it: Very small cluster of a few stars of 19th magnitude; between 2 stars of around 16th magnitude. Star 10-11 preceding 11 seconds. This is GC 4720. All this leads me to doubt my earlier conclusion that the object is composed of all three doubles. Given that d'A was using an 11-inch refractor, the southern two pairs are probably beyond his limit. Also, he has the brighter, preceding star "somewhat south". This would be an appropriate comment if the brightest pair -- the northern double -- was his intended object, but would not describe the position of the two southern pairs; those are very nearly straight east of the star. Finally, he says "very small, oblong". This, too, is appropriate for one, but not all three, of the pairs. So, I am going to take just the northern double as d'A's object. Wolfgang has done that, too. For the record, the J2000 positions of the other two pairs are 21 56 58.2, +02 54 50 (I had previously called this "N7161: m pair") and 21 56 58.4, +02 54 26 (previously called "N7161: s pair").

Steve's Notes

===== NGC 7161 18" (10/25/03): this is a close pair of faint mag 15 stars at 9" separation, situated nearly at the midpoint of two mag 13 stars ~2' N and 2' S. Resolved at 250x, but the faint pair appears nebulous at lower powers. Located 10' N of a distinctive equilateral triangle of stars highlighted by mag 8.9 SAO 127184.